Pulling out of Georgia; Pulling out of Iraq; How many houses?

View John McCain video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajB-vsqgZ3o

Lawrence O’Donnell sits in as host; Bob and Tony debate the issues (Matt’s on vacation, Arianna’s on the road)…Is Russia honoring its deadline to pull out of Georgia? A very substantive and fascinating discussion of how to deal with Russia ensues with Tony insisting that Russia be punished and temporarily banned from the G8, and that the country must be dealt with firmly but reasonably and Bob disagreeing quite vehemently, wondering about the double standard in effect between Russia’s Georgia venture and the US venture in Iraq. Speaking of which: the Bush administration, both Bob and Tony agree, has had to stand down in announcing that the US intends to pull troops out by 2011. Is this better for McCain or Obama? And speaking of the candidates: we don’t discuss the VP choice because it isn’t known as we go to air. But even Tony admits that the inability of McCain, in spite of justifiable confusion, sounds like either he’s too rich to count his palaces or too befuddled to really know what’s his, what’s his wife’s and why it does matter.

IMAGES ABOVE and CREDITS:

John McCain's Many Houses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajB-vsqgZ3o  courtesy of YouTube and talkingpointsmemo.com

Man On Patrol In Iraq
http://media.canada.com/09d961d7-46d8-4570-83dd-936c1d939816/iraq0120.jpg?size=l courtesy of The Star Phoenix

Your early reading in advance of tomorrow's show!
Here is Tony's column this week, followed by Bob's:

 

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The Destroyer of Worlds
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Tony Blankley
Wednesday, July 30, 2008

In the Birla Temple, a Hindu temple in Delhi, India, there is a plaque that reads: "He who is known as Vishnu the Preserver is verily Rudra the Destroyer, and He who is Rudra is Brahma the Creator." This fact (from Arthur Herman's book "Gandhi and Churchill") came to me over the weekend as I was rereading Sen. Obama's Berlin speech. Now, let me assure my easily offended friends in the Obama camp that I am not suggesting Obama is or ever was a Hindu. I take him at his word that he is whatever he says he is. (Pass out more eggshells.) But it is precisely his words regarding his philosophy of government that I find ambiguous -- and potentially disturbing.

Secular would-be leaders of men who promise transcendence and transformational change have something in common with the promises and warnings of many religions. They claim to want to preserve what is good in their people and change what needs to be changed to make their lives and souls even better. But unlike some religions, secular leaders with transforming visions of their missions often skip over the bits about what must be destroyed in order to bring those better things to man. And that is where religions are often more honest.

For instance, in Hindu, the god Rudra, who is also known as Lord Shiva, is the third god in the Hindu trinity. He destroys worlds. Specifically, he destroys the evil passions and animal instincts that usually characterize human consciousness in order to make room for divinity to enter man's world. He is believed by many Hindus to inspire people to perform acts of courage, spiritual wisdom and devotion.

Now, I am, God knows, no expert on comparative religion. But among the more popular human attributes that many religions condemn is the human desire to possess material things. (Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's oxen or wives, etc.) And most religions remind us that we are all brothers and sisters of one humanity.

But man persists in liking to have things and organizing around groups smaller than humanity. Specifically, modern Western civilization -- and the United States, in particular -- has done rather well organizing into nations and permitting its people to be free to produce and keep most of the fruits of our labor.

Reading Obama's Berlin speech, I see dangerous suggestions that he doesn't share that happy view of American prosperity. As he said, while he came to Berlin as "a proud citizen of the United States," he also came to Berlin as "a fellow citizen of the world." Putting aside the thought that a rally in Berlin in front of a quarter-million glistening-eyed, bosom-clenching, swooning Germans is a historically awkward spot for a leader to proclaim his worldwide goals for tomorrow, his actual words are disconcerting enough -- even if they had been delivered in peaceful Switzerland.

He said: "The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between natives and immigrants cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down. We know that these walls have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a union of promise and prosperity."

That last sentence would suggest that Obama is not terribly keen about nation-states. It suggests that he believes that nation-states have outgrown their practical and moral utility. That is why, presumably, he says that we must tear down the walls between the countries "with the most" -- that would be the United States -- and those with the least. That is why he calls for tearing down walls between "natives and (illegal?) immigrants." That is why he is for strict reductions in carbon emissions for the United States, even if it reduces our prosperity more than it does poorer countries.

That is why he is a co-sponsor of Senate Bill 2433, the Global Poverty Act, a bill Obama's own Web site proudly claims would "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015." Now, that bill would only authorize the end of gross wealth disparities between nations; it doesn't appropriate money for it or order taxes to pay for it. So technically, that promise doesn't cost a cent. But if Obama is sincere about those goals he proudly champions -- and if he has the political power next year to raise taxes and appropriate taxpayer dollars -- we could see the beginning of vast transfers of our wealth to his "fellow citizens of the world."

Sen. Obama owes it to the public to let us know how much of our hard-earned money he, in his wisdom, believes we have a moral obligation to give away to poor people around the world -- and how much of our money that he has a moral obligation to extract from our wages forcefully, through federal taxation. He has a moral obligation to do as the Hindu god Rudra did and tell his intended subjects what of ours he will destroy to make us better people.

I hope Obama is just saying stuff that he thinks sounds good to the kids. But if Obama means what he says, we should brace for the wrath of Rudra.

Sucking Up to the Bankers: A Bipartisan Lovefest

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080729_sucking_up_to_the_bankers/

Posted on Jul 29, 2008

By Robert Scheer

This is a time to condemn the bankers, not to embrace them. They are the scoundrels who got us into the biggest economic mess since the Great Depression, lining their own pockets while destroying the life savings of those who trusted them. Yet both of our leading presidential candidates are scrambling to enlist not only the big-dollar contributions but, more frighteningly, the “expertise” of the very folks who advocated the financial industry deregulations at the heart of this meltdown.

Republican candidate John McCain even appointed as his campaign co-chairman Phil Gramm, who went from being chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, where he sponsored disastrous legislation that empowered the banking bandits, to becoming one of them at UBS Warburg. Gramm was forced to resign from McCain’s campaign only after he went public with his contempt for the financial concerns of ordinary Americans, calling them “whiners” and perpetrators of a “mental recession.”

But Gramm and the Republicans couldn’t have done it without the support of leading Democrats. The most egregious of Gramm’s legislative favors to the financiers took the form of legislation named in part after him—the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which became law only after then-Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin prevailed upon President Clinton to sign the bill. The bill’s immediate major effect was to legitimize the long-sought merger between Citibank and insurance giant Travelers. Rubin’s critical support for the bill was rewarded with an appointment, within days of its passage, to a top job at Citibank (later Citigroup) paying more than $15 million a year.

That is the same Rubin with whom Democratic candidate Barack Obama met, along with other influential advisers, on Tuesday to figure out what to do about the sorry state of our economy. But what in the world did he expect to learn from Rubin? And why did he appoint Rubin’s protégé, Jason Furman, who ran the Rubin-funded Hamilton Project, to be the Obama campaign’s economic director? Hopefully, during their encounter Tuesday, Rubin offered himself as a contrite model of everything that the candidate of change needs to change.

After all, Goldman Sachs, where Rubin spent 25 years of his business career before entering the Clinton administration, has been one of the prime corporate villains in the financial shenanigans that led to the subprime mortgage scandal. As co-chairman of the firm, surely he had knowledge of the financial hanky-panky that would prove so disastrous down the road. Indeed, as Treasury secretary, he favored an extension of the deregulation that enabled this explosion of banking avarice. Not surprisingly, the current Treasury secretary, Henry Paulson, also previously headed Goldman.

When Rubin assumed a top position at Citibank after his stint at the Treasury, he was not above influencing his former employees in the government. In one notorious instance during the fall of 2001, when Enron was going down the tubes Rubin telephoned a Treasury undersecretary and asked him to consider intervening with credit-rating agencies to hold off downgrading Enron’s ratings. When the story was leaked, some media accounts noted the possibility of a conflict of interest because Enron owed Citibank $750 million, which it could not pay if bankrupt.

Despite his skills and his vaunted position as Citibank’s chairman, Rubin was not spared the disastrous consequences of Citibank’s own wild financial manipulations, which, if anything, exceeded those of Enron. Tens of billions in bad mortgage and credit card debt placed the bank at the forefront of the current economic crisis, and so it is weird that Obama would now turn to Rubin for advice.

It’s even weirder that the presumptive Democratic nominee would pick Rubin’s man Furman as his campaign economic director at a time when cleaning up the mess left by the bankers is the highest priority. Furman hardly distinguished himself four years ago in that role in John Kerry’s failed presidential campaign, with its muffled economic message that could not be blamed on the candidate’s stiff style alone.

The bigger problem is that folks such as Rubin and Furman, perhaps best known as an economist for his bold but woefully misguided defense of the Wal-Mart business model, clearly do not feel the pain of the voters who are losing their homes.

But then again, why should Rubin, or Gramm on the Republican side, be expected to care when he has made so many millions off the suffering of those voters? Not good at a time when we need a presidential candidate who sticks it to the bankers instead of sucking up to them.

Robert Scheer is author of a new book, “The Pornography of Power: How Defense Hawks Hijacked 9/11 and Weakened America.”

AP photo / Jae C. Hong

Sen. Barack Obama meets with his economic advisers Monday in Washington. From left: former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, Obama, Service Employees International Union Chair Anna Burger, former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine.

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 Obama Overseas, McCain Campaign, The Poll Truth, Mortgage Bill

Photo on the left is from LA Times front page 7/25/08. Obama appears before a crowd of 250,000 fans in Berlin.

Photo on the right:  Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. makes a campaign stop to talk with small business leaders, Thursday, July 24, 2008, at the Schmidt's Restaurant and Banquet Haus in Columbus, Ohio. At left is Dan Young, owner of Youngs Jersey Dairy. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

Obama’s obvious overseas success may be a triumph of visuals over substance; will it come back to haunt him? The panelists agree that this campaign should be a walk for a Democratic candidate, so why are the polls on McCain and Obama so close? McCain’s week has been as bad Obama’s has been good – by anyone’s standards, he and his campaign have floundered. And the mortgage bill: is it socializing the downside, a banker bailout, a necessity that even free marketers must go along with for fear of a complete US economic meltdown? **This week, we invite our bloggers to weigh in on the promised discussion of media bias **– which we promised but didn't get to during the program.

  Volunteer bloggers Andi and Marisa pulled these notable quotables from today's show -- feel free to use them in your blog but please remember to credit KCRW's Left, Right & Center:

Obama's Foreign Adventure 

Tony Blankley concluded that Obama "looked like the President of the United States" and is "dubious of McCain's ability to do the same". He added that "McCain was lucky to get as little coverage as he did this week...[because he] looked smaller and less presidential." 

Why is this Race so Close??—PLEASE ADD YOUR COMMENTS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!!!!

Robert Scheer stated that “Republicans have brought us disaster, they betrayed conservatism, they’ve bankrupted our economy so there is a lot for a leftist, populist candidate to campaign on….we need to hear that voice from Obama.”

 Our allies abroad have heard Obama’s voice and are once again excited about American politics, they know we “ have an incredibly attractive candidate, this guy’s being cheered on as a rock star in Berlin, now THAT is a projection of American values!”

 Domestically speaking, Tony Blankley noted that “the more the public gets to know [Obama] the lower his numbers drop.” Blankley thinks “it’s a combination of skin color, his internationalism, his arrogance and the media coverage which says we’ve already selected a president for you” that is hindering Obama’s lead in the polls. Robert Scheer agreed with Tony Blankley’s statement that “there is a racial issue with Obama; the fact that he doesn’t have a white father.”

Mortgage Relief Bill 

Robert asks “How is this going to help people with their mortgages?” This is just a “bailout for the bankers, there has been no accountability….we’re losing control of our economy.”

Obama Al Maliki AP pic

Here are columns by Tony Blankley and Robert Scheer, both about Barack Obama, which we'll be discussing on tomorrow's show. (Other topics TBA, but probably the housing bill that's moving fast to help prevent total mortgage meltdown.)

Wednesday, July 23, 2008

BLANKLEY: The GQ statesman

By: Tony Blankley

OP-ED:

Watching Sen. Barack Obama glide through his foreign trip so far, nervous Republicans and other patriots have to hope that American voters will not view him through the eyes of a Hollywood casting director. Because one could not cast a man, who can better visually portray a worldly statesman?

Obama on the Brink 

Posted on Jul 22, 2008

By Robert Scheer

Barack Obama is betraying his promise of change and is in danger of becoming just another political hack.

AND here's a special report from FOX News -- about John Bolton's comments:

Guest host Lawrence O'Donnell nicely aligned the subtitle of Robert Scheer's book with pornography so we would remember it (or at least a keyword; hint:  Scheer and pornography).

And here's how Tony Blankley got things going:

re: the surge's success:  "That's why Obama scrubbed his website- because we're winning..."

and:

"It's certainly vindication for Bush and McCain - certainly those of us who support the surge."

He also said that we need 10,000 more troops in Afghanistan.  And that Admiral Mullen said we couldn't find an extra 5-10,000 more troops in Afghanistan..."I don't think he speaks on  all the info. he has."

Tony went on to speak about the "political view on the left:"

"The Iraq war is bad; the war in Afghanistan is good.  Now the Iraq war is good, the Afghan war bad...the antiwar left is never prepared to accept a war...they were only saying [Afghanistan] was good so they could contrast it with Iraq."

Bob has a few choice words about Tony’s assertions…

While Arianna decries the false left-right political divide (“the pathetic, obsolete way of looking at American politics” and calling the name of our program “archaic”), she says Tony’s declaration that we’ve won in Iraq is “surrealistic and absurd.” Bob says he’s not embarrassed to be on the left and takes issue with Arianna, reminding her he supported Clinton’s decision to launch cruise missiles to get at Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. But getting involved in a civil war between the Taliban and their opponents isn’t what we should be doing there. “We should be vigorous but rational in pursuing terrorists.”

Lawrence served up what he called 'the softest of softballs' to Tony re: Al Gore's call to the Presidential candidates to set a goal of going carbon-free in terms of electricity generation in 10 years...and Tony swung:  "he showed a sense of humor; the New Yorker cover inspired him to satire...to lunacy."  He went on:

"His plan is virtually impossible...we couldn't build enough nuclear plants in 10 years..."

Lawrence mentioned that Obama had recently done three workouts in one day, and there was speculation that 2 of those 'workouts' were clandestine meetings with VP candidates.

Tony said Romney would not be able to buy his way into the VP slot, and that "McCain will make a quirky decision based on his personality.  Romney's not attractive as a VP just as he wasn't as a presidential candidate."

Lawrence then threw a shout out to visitor to our blog- YoDaveG- who asked about the transition period as Bush ends and the incumbent begins, and that we'll be vulnerable in the Middle East during this time, and this troubles him...

Today's Quotables:

Bob Scheer:

White House and Iraq announcement about possible troop reductions:  we’re not winning the war in any respect that was defined by our goals there…This is a face-saving gesture. He also says Afghanistan’s been a disaster for centuries and that the US went there 7 months before the Soviets did. The US has been “making a mess, messing around in Afghanistan – we should let people make their own history.”   

William Pfaff wrote on TruthDig.com: I don’t know why people are thrilled with [Barack] Obama saying we need to get into Afghanistan- that’s a potential disaster.

Arianna:

"I object to this pathetic, obsolete way of looking at American politics" [re: left-right divisions in American politics] including the "archaic name of our show."

A really good show today. Lawrence O’Donnell sits in for Matt Miller this week and next, everyone’s in a studio and the conversation was both substantive and filled with collegial banter! Lotta love here...well, you know what I mean...and some feisty back-and-forth, too. Don't miss all the links I posted, the notable quotables and blogger Michael's summary of Mr. Scheer's comments...continue scrolling through all of today's posts -- then join the fray!!!

Oil’s Up, Market’s Down; Iran’s Missiles; Iraq’s Timetable

Today’s show raised the issue of the Presidential candidates’ response to the tanking of the Stock Market and the announcement that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are in free-fall. Plus, Iran shot some missiles and shot their credibility in the foot by doctoring photos. But that doesn’t mean the threat of Israel versus Iran isn’t scary and dangerous. Plus, Iraq appears to be calling for a timetable for a US departure. Is that serious--do they really want us to go?

Notable quotables from the show by bloggers Marisa and Andi:

Tony on Iranian missiles and Israeli worries: “I've been talking to Israeli officials for years and they think 6-12 months is the drop dead time” for action.

Bob questioned Tony's statement that there was "no evidence that McCain is looking forward to a conflict between Iran and Iraq" by referencing McCain's lyrics that he sung to the tune of a Beach Boys classic, "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran." Tony snarked back "it was a joke, even if you're on the left, you have to have a sense of humor."

Arianna says: “Obama’s making a serious mistake if he ignores the foreign policy of Iraq and targets only the economy."

“Iraqis don’t want us to leave any time soon” according to Tony. And he agrees with her that Obama missed an opportunity in reacting to Iraqi government's call for a timetable for US pullout.

Matt Miller mentioned a bunch of articles in the show: catch up on your reading:

Robert Novak: The Obamacons Who Worry McCain

Steven Pearlstein: The Bottom is Up Ahead

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2008/04/22/DI2008042201947.html