KCRW's Left, Right & Center --IT'S OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thank you LR&C for this great podcast and this great blog.

God Bless America, John McCain and President Barrack Hussein Obama!

Now for the hard part for President-elect Obama. Let's hope that the leadership skills he showed in running his campaign help him to change politics as usual, perhaps put an end to the ugliness of the right-left split with a new kind of centrism that works. He certainly can talk inspirationally.

McCain was gracious and more articulate in his concession than in many of his campaign performances.

Americans get the chance that is denied people in places like Zimbabwe to replace the leadership when things go bad.

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I listen to Left, Right & Center every week. I was deeply offended when, during your broadcast on October 31, Robert Scheer stated the sole reason the presidential race was close was because of racism. If I believe someone other than Mr. Obama would be a better choice I am a racist? Is Mr. Sheer a misogynist for his belief that Mr. Obama is a better choice than Mrs. Clinton? It's very disturbing that "The Left" on your program has such a standard for judging racism.
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Maybe the only reason why the race was so close is a bit overstated.
Bob seems to think that the reason Obama wasn't blowing away McCain in the pre-election poles was because of race, specifically he mentioned White Males.

Now that the election is over we find that Obama did better with white males (41%)than any democrat since Carter got 38% in '76.


For all the anguished talk about race making the election close -- exit polls show that being an African-American actually helped Obama more than hurt him. People of color voted for him overwhelmingly and in large numbers. More white voters voted for McCain -- but the margin was much closer.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

(Recent white Democratic presidential candidates haven't carried white voters either).

I liked the North Wind and the Sun fable. The moral that persuasion is more effective than force is apt, and I see the direct correlation to the campaign.

I read that in some exit polls, voters expressed that they were fearful of a John McCain presidency. I think this is ironic given how hard the McCain campaign tried to make people fearful of a Barack Obama presidency. I guess if you talk incessantly about fear, the audience does feel fear, but they associate the emotion with the speaker more than the subject of the speech.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama had a campaign slogan "Yes We Can" which makes people feel good. Of course Obama did his share of negative campaigning, but if each campaign had one single message that had the most resonance at an emotional level, McCain's was based in fear, while Obama's was based in hope.
It's amazing how quickly the bashing of Sarah Palin is occurring, from the McCain campaign itself. They're dishing dirt, describing the level of her incompetence as far greater even than was known publicly. Talk about throwing her under the bus.

What I think was Sarah Palin's mistake -- and that of her campaign handlers -- was to pretend to be a person with conventional qualifications for the White House. That just wasn't true. The McCain campaign strategists proved their cynicism by trying to lie to the American people.

Sarah Palin's strength from the moment she emerged on the national scene was her "plain folks" image. Always use your strength. If she could have stuck to that, it would have been more forgivable when she didn't know political or historical jargon like the Bush Doctrine or American Exceptionalism.

She was being judged by the media pundits using the frame of experience and political acumen. The campaign already had John McCain who could serve that role. They should have changed the framing for Sarah Palin by giving her a zinger line, for instance:

"I'm not running to win on Jeopardy, I'm running to represent the American people."

The voters would have loved it, and the Obama campaign would have had a hard time countering it.

"In regard to attitude, America's conservatives could do worse than to be moved by those lines of Robert Blake from another place and another time on behalf of a similar sacred cause then not yet realized."

Another place and another time indeed.

Hmm. Robert Blake is the actor who played "Baretta." Tony Blankley is quoting the poem "And did those feet in ancient time" by William Blake.

By the way, Tony also states in his article:
"Free markets, particularly, are under the immediate, explicit assault of the next government."
I notice that Tony does not use the adjective "inappropriate" in that sentence. Most experts, even Alan Greenspan, agree that the zeal for a free market has led us to the current crisis. Some amount of accountability should be enforced, without stifling the benefits of a market economy.

When you're in a rowboat with a group of people, it's appropriate that not everyone gets to lean over the same side of the boat at the same time. Some rules are good.

Interesting comment by Bill Karwin got lost as the election happened.

"In a way I do feel sorry for George W. Bush. He seems like the hapless victim of circumstances. In a July 15 interview on Fresh Air, author Jane Mayer characterizes Bush and Cheney as almost overwhelmed by the responsibility to do everything they could to prevent another attack like 9/11. They focused on "raw" intelligence that hadn't been vetted, and so drove themselves into a sort of paranoia that made them unable to distinguish true threats from false threats.

Mayer says:

"It's not that they were a gang of criminals who were doing something wanton for fun, these are people who felt they were doing what was required and necessary to protect the country."

I think this is the most charitable interpretation possible of the Bush administration."

I don't know if anyone has any more emotional energy to spend on Bush, although he does have two and a half months in office. He did well in the first few days after 9/11, but otherwise definitely was not up to the job himself, did not select his underlings well and generally either had or did not exercise wise control over them. Furthermore they were too into power and behaved too much like Al Capone in the Untouchables movie, braining one of his underlings to show that he was still in charge. They had too little respect for freedom, democracy and due process. No one thought they were doing something wanton for fun or even a gang of criminals in the usual sense, although the laws of warmaking post-Nuremberg might make them criminals in an unusual sense.

Republicans are apparently looking at what happened and asking whether they were too conservative, not conservative enough or just had a lot of bad luck. We might say that they did not have cohesion amoung their constituency groups and the Democrats did, as happens when someone has been in power for a long time and bad things happen. We might add to this whether it was a good idea for Bush to run as a uniter, win by the narrowest of margins and then govern as a divider in the most conservative government in history. They may say they had 8 years in office to get their people into the courts and agencies, hand millions to the richest 1%, leave their successor with a crisis and huge debt to be responsible for and will be ready to come back in 2, 4 or 8 years. Or perhaps Obama will change politics so they will have to change their way of doing things.

In hindsight, Bush looked like a better candidate on paper than he turned out to be. He also had some good luck that Clinton's womanizing turned so many people off despite a trong economy, that all those votes in Florida didn't count and that the Supreme Court broke the tie for him. But despite all the campaigning we didn't really know what we would get, and more than we do with Obama. Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

So far Bush has been pretty gracious, and hopefully won't leave office with any corrupt pardons, gratuitous sabotage and in your face orders to be rescinded, as happened when Clinton left. Nor have we seen the kind of hissing we saw from some conservatives when Clinton won. Many people want Obama to succeed in some way (even if they also have exaggerated fears that his views are extremely opposed to theirs), and hopefully those who didn't support him will recognize that the times are too perilous to try to make him fail. The "we are all Americans" thing that McCain said at his concession. A question is how to make that true.

I wonder if I could pose a question for Tony Blankley. I doubt that he reads through our blog postings, but if this somehow manages to get through to him, I'd love to know what he really thinks of Governor Palin?

At the risk of sounding like a brown-noser, I really respect and admire Tony. He's incredibly articulate, an excellent writer, and a brilliant political mind. Unfortunately, I stand on the opposite side of him ideologically, and happen to disagree with him on most issues.

Nevertheless, I especially liked his political commentary and analysis of the Democratic Primaries, where he could be relatively dispassionate and provided great insights. That's why it was such a great pity that once the actual campaigning began, we pretty much lost Tony as he positioned himself to defend the GOP and no longer became a dispassionate observer. It was painful to have to listen to him defend strategies and decisions that I know he did not agree with.

And so, I ask about Sarah Palin. What does Tony really think of her nomination? I know the stock lines about shoring up the base and conservative values, but wasn't there a better candidate? Couldn't there be somebody, anybody, out there that was a little bit more knowledgable. I know that "folksy" has some sway with certain constituencies, and Harvard educated is "elitist" to that same crowd, but really, would we want our VP to tell the PM of France "Oh, we love you," when she hears him on the phone for the first time. Is this the image of America that we want to purport to the rest of the world: a folksy, small town nation that charms you with their ignorance.

Tony, you're an intelligent man, and although I don't agree with conservatism as an ideology, I understand its intellectual foundations, rooted in Leo Strauss. You understand those foundations as well. I'm not sure Governor Palin even knows the name Leo Strauss.

I noticed on Election Night on CNN, one of the exit polls was directed specifically at 44-year-olds. I'm assuming that's because 1964 was officially the end of the Baby Boomers, as far as when you were born. That date, of course, is arbitrary as i wouldnt consider anyone born in the 60s to be a baby boomer. My father was born in 1940, for example, and I don't consider Obama to be a part of his generation.

One of the things I haven't heard talked about yet is how this election finally puts an end to the Vietnam Era. As I understand it, nobody who fought in the Vietnam War was ever successful running for the White House. And I, for one, think that is healthy.

However, I can now admit that as an Obama voter, I actually think McCain would have made a better Commander in Chief if that were the only responsibility of a president, which it clearly isn't. "Diplomat in Chief' is a term I wish were more popular. McCain never became an economic expert because he put his faith in "hands off" Reagonomics. I think, however, that beginning with The Surge, McCain was right, insomuchas "we're in this mess now, how do we clean it up?"

For that reason, I'd love to see McCain as Defense Secretary. I'd also love to see Powell as Education Secretary. And, I'd absolutely hate to see anyone associated with the Clinton Administration as Finance Secretary. I'd also like to see Chuck Hagel as Secretary of State.

Above all, I'd like to see

Above all, I'd like to see Harry Reid given a cabinet position that would take him out of the Senate Leadership so he could be replaced with a less divisive and better leader than Reid is.

The Kennedy clan should also be rewarded with any posts they want, especially Caroline. Obama should reach out to Olympia Snowe as well and of course Hillary Clinton (though I think her career would be better served by running for governor of NY or Arkansas).

Finally, McCain showed himself to be a great statesmen (and a weak rightwing candidate) through these three actions, that should not be underestimated:

1. He did not play the race card, even as his candidacy became desperate.

2. He did not vote against the Bail-out when it could have changed the momentum of the race.

3. He gave the most statesman-like and important Consession Speech in our country's history. He understood the historical importance of the election and how critical his words would be in such a critical hour after a close election. He gave a Great speech to Obama's good speech for the first and last time of his career.

I still love John McCain.

Blankley remained fairly objective about the McCain campaign's chances and the uphill battle they faced, and how it was a result of the Bush Administration, which seemed decidedly off message for a Republican insider. (Compare to some of the Politico Arena commentators who never went beyond the mouthpiece message and were annoying to read.) On some of the small stuff he did defend the talking points.

I would really like to hear more about the conservative Republican renaissance that Blankley talked about in the last show. He said it would be more populist. Maybe more Palin-like? But the real heart of the Republicans has been the CEO and ownership level people, particularly in finance, and the Congresspeople who serve them, and the lobbyists who make it happen. Essentially the party of Delay, Armey, Boehner and Abramoff, plus all those mortgage CEOs like the guy Bush appointed ambassador to France. And the Enron people. And Halliburton and the oil companies. If these are the people whose greed and corruption got the Republicans in trouble, they are also the heart of the party. What would a more populist Republican party do with them?

It seems like the internal Republican argument so far has been whether they were too conservative or not conservative enough. But the Bush Administration has been the most conservative in history, and every mess they made is attributable to conservatism. Only the anti-government spending people and maybe the small libertarian wing have any criticism of what their agenda was, as opposed to how they did it. I'm sure we will hear from Blankley on this.

Why, other than tactical partisanship, are so many Republicans so down on Reid and Pelosi? Like everyone will understand that their names are curse words. What terrible have they done? Did they just plug their names into the niches they used to put Kennedy and the Clintons? Reid and Pelosi aren't inspirational leaders like Obama, but they aren't Gingrich or DeLay either.

I also respected McCain's concession speech, and noticed he was more sincere and a better candidate then than he was on the stump, maybe because you can't really be that sincere on the stump. (Do either of them really think there will be money for programs or tax cuts given the commitment to the wars and the bailout. But they can't go along with the questioners on that.)

McCain also did a decent effort with reigning in a lot of the negative stuff his side was doing, particularly in his presence. Since the presidential candidate himself generally must look presidential and leave the negative stuff to others, since no Presidential campaign is going to overtly play the race card (like Helms did that time in his Senate race) and particularly not in a race against an African American candidate where an overt race card would generate anxiety among a lot of moderates and independents, to say nothing of the anger of African Americans, and because subtle invocations of the race card were a constant undercurrent in the campaign (All the Obamassiah stuff, Jeremiah Wright, the Hussein stuff, ACORN, the FNMA guy who is black, the idea that loans to unqualified blacks caused the mortgage meltdown, to the extent that Ayers invokes memories of 60s era black radicals as cartooned on that New Yorker cover, and the accusation that the media was afraid to criticize Obama because of his race) I am not sure of how much of a pass to give McCain, and less to the people running his campaign, and certainly none to the swift boaters a deniable distance from the campaign. McCain may have as little real control of his campaign as Bush did over the guards at Abu Ghraib. But he did try harder.

McCain also did not demagogue the bailout vote, which is good. That would have been a politically dangerous thing for him to do since the Administration and the business interests were so much in favor of it, and everyone was saying the world economy would plunge into crisis if the bill didn't pass. The bailout was another no win situation for McCain. The Republicans in Congress were able to make an early no vote statement and get some pork in before going along, but McCain wouldn't have looked like a president or a maverick doing that. Plus he had committed to supporting it during that debate. The bailout bill was the Bush administration's party, and McCain was left looking unpresidential and insignificant if he went along and rash and demagogic if he didn't. And if Bush had given him a significant role, that would play to Obama's argument that he was a third Bush Administration in the making. Obama stayed out of the limelight, showed up for the vote, and supported the bill, which was the best road.

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A point of clarification for Tony:

'Fulsome' does not mean 'overripe.' In its pejorative sense,

Listening to the Live LR&C Show in Santa Monica. I didn't hear it live, but I got the MP3 -- thanks much for posting it so quickly!

One thing struck me about this week's show and it also applies to other recent shows: Bob has a habit of turning every discussion into a lengthy rant against the foxes who have been guarding the hen-house, and launches into the history of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000.

I don't disagree with Bob, and I respect that this is a very serious issue. The deregulation spree has resulted in unprecedented economic instability and millions of Americans losing their homes. But not every discussion is about that!

It reminds me of an experience I had in college, in a Speech class. We were assigned to work in a group of four people, to give a speech together. The subject was to pick one movie we liked, and one we didn't like, and compare them.

One young man in our group of four said that Spike Lee was the greatest filmmaker and all his films are brilliant. He insisted that we give our speech about two Spike Lee films. He didn't seem to get it that we were supposed to pick one movie we didn't like. The others and I tried to clarify the assignment. We proposed that we could choose a Spike Lee film as the film we liked, and then choose some other film for the one we didn't like. No deal -- he wanted to talk about two Spike Lee films (the student was white, in case you were wondering).

Anyway, our assignment was a total disaster. We couldn't get anything done because we spent all our time trying to reason with a person who had a one-track mind. It was certainly an educational experience!

What I'm saying is that when Bob turns every discussion into a rehash of the injustice of the CFMA, it takes away time from any other topic that show might cover.

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